Upon my review of the Alienist Prestige Class in the Complete Arcana book I found myself rather disappointed. It lacked the flare I thought it. General Prestige Class: Alienist. Alienists deal with powers and entities from terrifyingly remote reaches of space and time. For them, magical power is the. Alienists deal with powers and entities from terrifyingly remote reaches of space and time. For them, magical power is the triumph of the mind over the rude.

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They don’t have the utility that other summons give you, like Bone Devil’s ability to make the entire party fly or section off the battlefield with walls of ice.

It bills itself as a class that A. The Alienist can cast Find Familiarand can cast it as a ritual. I’m reminded of a quote by the Giant In short, screw it, it’s been well demonstrated by a very well done and popular campaign journal http: Yeah, but those guys all play Monks and Ninjas and would never qualify for this anyway.: If you want to go all in on this then Knight of the Sacred Seal wouldn’t be a bad idea.

It is a very useful spell. My Homebrew PF, 3. She gains an additional 3 hit points, but her mental faculties continue to degrade. Cause Conjure Ice Beast says it can summon anything from the summon monster or summon natures ally lists. Maybe I’m failing to grasp this utility-aspect of SM. Except druid, because better than druid is only Planar Shepherd Actually the Summon Alien ability does nothing for or against them.

Monday, 9th December, Even SBOH, as horrible a class as it is, doesn’t make you any less capable of doing anything, it just doesn’t make you as good at doing anything as something else. To give you an idea of what you’re losing, a single spell SMV gets you: Although i do have to wonder, when you mention feats, do you mean Cerebrosis, of master of Madness? They are usually reserved about their research, sometimes due to the ridicule they received from others, or just because they are secretive of the power they wish to harness.


Not everything from beyond the stars should be a giant squid just because Lovecraft had a seafood phobia. But seriously, the Far Realm is just such a cool of a concept, and Alienist is the closest thing you can get for a character related to that idea. All these progress you towards greater alienity in ways superior to Alienist. Class Features – you can tell I’m overflowing with aliens energies by the fact that I’m slightly tougher, and marginally more likely to resist hostile effects.

Or, you know, jumping over it?

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They could have done things to make them less natural, but they did not do that. There’s not much in the way of upside of getting SM with versatility watered down along with standard SNA. That being said it’s actually really good in low op groups that don’t see the value of battlefield control and just primarily like blasting things.

So for all you know, they obviated Alienist completely on purpose – they took one look at it, made a sound in their throat that amounted to “blech,” and proceeded to create a feat that did by itself what the whole PrC should have alienish from the get-go – not hamstring your alkenist capability.

In most societies, alienists are treated just like the entities they deal with – blasphemous, dangerous, insane, and most of all, different.

At each level, an alienist gains new spells per day and spells known, if applicable as if she had also gained a level in a spellcasting class to which she belonged before adding the prestige class level.

Also note our banned subjects list. You should go read it. This is in the spell chapter of the PHB? However, you can still die of old age. She does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained improved chance of turning or destroying undead, a bonus feat, and so on. I think it’s a cool PrC based on that alone.

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And everything about the results of the Alienist is disappointing. There’s this great thing called ‘utility summoning’.


I acknowledged that a commoner had a slim chance of actually getting over the wall but that’s not the same thing as jumping clean over it or “clearing it. Well if you find it wrong that’s your call I suppose but I wouldn’t pretend alisnist a moment that somehow this is an undesirable class.

Please refer to page 52 of the Call of Cthulhu d20 handbook by Monte Cook and John Tynes for further information on how this affects the character. I alienits really see how you figure.

If it’s enough for you, that’s entirely your prerogative, but you’re not really swaying the populace by claiming that this summoning focus class only reduces summoning ability by quite a lot rather than by a massive amount.

From now on, the alienist’s newly summoned familiars already possess the pseudonatural template. Why take it in the first place? First, something you summon gets its turn the instant it appears, on your initiative.

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It’s upper end would be below the commoner’s heels Also, all those walls will block LoE – enemies will be well protected from you until the Bone Devil disappear The second wall isn’t atop the first wall. Sign up using Email and Password. I’m reminded of a quote by the Giant I think trying to not offend people is a worthwhile goal. Post as a guest Name. Alienist [ edit ] The alienists deal with powers and entities from terrifyingly remote reaches of space and time.